Casino and goodfellas which is better

Is GoodFellas fantastic? Is Casino , perhaps, just a smidge better? You bet. Why does it feel impossible to talk about Casino , an undervalued and underrated movie, without talking about GoodFellas? The two, in a sense, are inexorably linked, partly because of the mob connection, the "based on a true story" milieu of the subject matter, and, of course, Robert De Niro. In GoodFellas , the hoods, even with all their cheerful sociopathy, get progressively smaller and pettier as the movie progresses, it is, after all, about the grind of small timers.

The film is a weighty one; an anthropological exploration of how the mob lost their westernmost outpost to more rapacious forces like Steve Wynn and Disney-style real estate corporations. The three personalities at center of it all—The Accountant, The Gangster, and The Hustler—are rendered so large, so loud, that they match the mythic level of a true rise and fall. The first third of the film is ballsy.

What techniques Scorsese tested in GoodFellas are on full display in Casino. The extended Copa shot? The movie is great all around too. Scorsese said he would if JFK, Jr. JFK, Jr. Casino is good, mostly for Stone's performance, but I agree it is an hour too long. It's also too much like Goodfellas, which was so much more original. I can't quote a single line from "Casino," while more than several from "Goodfellas" are as memorable as if I heard them yesterday.

Casino, no. It's not a bad movie just not as compelling. Goodfellas I can watch yearly. Casino once was enough. James Woods makes my skin crawl even before I knew he was terrible. Sharon Stone was the last of the great female movie stars. No, she's not a thespian like St. Meryl or Cate the Great, but she's a movie star in that she knows her strengths as a performer in front of the camera, and delivers with the right role. DeNiro and Pesci were already veteran actors in the gangster genre, and Stone stole the film completely away from both.

She's the only compelling character in the film, and she rightly was the only actor nominated for an Oscar. Casino had a great supporting cast. But it was nothing like Goodfellas. And Deniro could slide more easily into the gangster role. You beat him with a knife, he comes back with a gun. And if you beat him with a gun, you better kill him because he'll keep comin back until one of you is dead.

Yes, James Woods is repulsive as Lester Diamond but that proves how perfect he was for the role. R55, R Each if us was invited to participate in this lighthearted thread and to opine on personal preference. You chose to discredit mine, so I say to you:. Casino is overlong and not nearly as involving as Goodfellas. Goodfellas is Hollywood filmmaking at its best. Casino was most definitely a quality film.

I may have to reach both to decide. I really love The Departed too, but that may have been the stellar cast and good film deprivation. It's the relentless narration in Casino that bothers me.

Ray Liotta's voiceover comments in Goodfellas are black comedy: he's only offering you helpful information about what you are seeing. De Niro's voiceovers are totally in character, too, but it's the character's nature to be over-controlling, to interpret everything before you do.

It's tiring. Hard call for me: 1. Pesci looks at velvet painting his mom had done of two dogs, each looking a different way. I like DeNiro, but some of his characters' mannerisms are too noticeable. Since R66 brought up the Goodfellas' scene at Pesci's mom's house, I'll say DeNiro was doing too much with that ketchup bottle.

Casino is exciting because of Stone. It feels different because of that energy from a woman, but also the character being so livewire. GoodFellas is the superior film it's tighter, better edited, more story impact , but if Scorsese had never made GoodFellas, Casino would be considered so much more accomplished. It really does capture the era and gives Stone that platform to show off her skills that she never had again. I always thought it was interesting how many comic actors there were in Casino: Rickles, Pollak, Dick Smothers, etc.

And yet the funniest person in the movie is Scorsese's mother. I could not get through Casino. Yes indeed, we too use "cookies. Otherwise, you'll just have to find some other site for your pointless bitchery needs.

Become a contributor - post when you want with no ads! But to each his own. No it is not. The only thing I love about Casino is Sharon Stone. My favorite Scorsese films are the ones that have nothing to do with the Mafia. OP is the whore in 2R. I lost control? As you can see, the dialogue is particularly vulgar, filled with profanities being flung about from one character to another amidst regular conversations about work and crime.

But writers Scorsese and Nicholas Pilleggi turn such vulgarities into a riveting and appropriately ugly way of portraying such a fraught and risky criminal business, just like they did in Goodfellas.

Both films are written to an inch of their lives, but Casino just about wins this round due to not only the better Pesci lines, but how this dialogue is interweaved through such a dizzying and dazzling story. Goodfellas impressive roaming camerawork gives life to some otherwise standard and realistic scenery. Casino is a film that screams Las Vegas, especially of its pre-corporation era, but Goodfellas is less concerned about presenting the exterior and more concerned about sticking to the tight and hidden and dingy interiors.

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